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25/06/2009 12:46:56 AM
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Durianrider Vegan
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ive been getting fitted by steve hogg in sydney for a few years now and rate him highly. ive just ordered some custom aussie built midfoot cleat shoes and will have em in august. will let peeps know what i think of em.
friel, gotz and hogg are among the most respected cycling advisors on the planet. they are all fans of midfoot.
why dont the pros ride em? some do. but if everyone did, we would have to change frame angles to accomodate the toe overlap..
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2/09/2009 6:32:06 PM
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Michael Warner
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August is over, Harley - what do you think of them? :-)
I'm interested in trying it, and even bought a pair of cleat plates, but found that my shoes (Specialized carbon sole) wouldn't accommodate them in the mid position without serious mutilation, so I've shelved the idea.
Comments I've seen elsewhere suggest that it improves steady power output by 5-10%, but reduces sprinting ability. It didn't look as though toe/wheel overlap would be an issue on my bike (a large Giant TCR).
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3/09/2009 5:40:50 AM
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Robert Rau
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Saw those mid foot cleat position shoes came out in europe a few months ago. Seems like you would need to alter seat position down slighltly...
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8/09/2009 1:12:46 AM
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heath campbell
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good for TT and tri but i think that it hasnt caught on on the road cos you have no change of pace with the mid foot position. if you get to the end of a road race its L.I.G.
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8/09/2009 1:15:20 AM
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heath campbell
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oops, micheal said that already. it would help if i read things properly.
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13/09/2009 3:42:12 PM
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Cos
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Well, mid foot position sounds interesting. Makes me think I should try moving my cleats back as far as they will go. Sure, this will only be at the back of the ball of the foot, but may be enough to change my leg action (I occasionally get leg cramps and/or a numb foot, so I'll try anything once to eliminate this).
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14/09/2009 9:26:15 PM
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Michael Warner
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Cos wrote:
Well, mid foot position sounds interesting. Makes me think I should try moving my cleats back as far as they will go. Sure, this will only be at the back of the ball of the foot, but may be enough to change my leg action (I occasionally get leg cramps and/or a numb foot, so I'll try anything once to eliminate this).
Definitely worth a try, and easier on your calves, although a numb foot is more likely due to shoe tightness (your feet swell a bit while riding) or an overly flexible sole. I have mine all the way back.
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3/02/2010 11:32:46 PM
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Durianrider Vegan
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ok today im in sydney and steve hogg just fitted us up with my custom midfoot shoes from brett at sabre boots in sydney. brett took a mold of my feet a few years ago and ive been riding custom shoes ever since. ive riden some off the shelf shoes as an experiment and yeah, you sure notice why all the top name pro's ride fully custom shoes...
so steve hogg dropped my bars by about 15mm and my seat by about 20mm. it feels like im pedaling with my heels and i could pick up a sultana off the ground at 30kph my bars are so low.
i expect it will take a few weeks for my legs to get used to the new set up. it already feels weird but a bit more powerful. i have a powertap power meter and i have some data to work with so i will be able to objectively say if midfoot is of benefit or not. so far, all the respected names in cycle fit agree its the way to go. and a few pro riders and triathletes are all ready using em. i know a few milram riders are for sure.
my shoes look like astronaut slippers but who cares about fashion when you get more function... 
edited by harley j on 3/02/2010
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4/02/2010 11:14:34 AM
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Michael Warner
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harley j wrote:
ok today im in sydney and steve hogg just fitted us up with my custom midfoot shoes from brett at sabre boots in sydney.
We look forward to checking out your new toys at Norton Summit on a Thursday evening soon!
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6/04/2010 6:31:23 AM
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Durianrider Vegan
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For sure! I look forward to that thursday bunch. Its a great ride.
Ive been on the gold coast for the last few months so thats why you havent seen me.
So its been 2 months now riding and racing with the midfoot and I must say Im a fan. Did 150km on friday, 30km on sat, 225km on sun and ran a half marathon yesterday and my legs feel great today. Wattage has increased too but that could just be cos Im racing again after a long break from racing and doing lots of travel/touring instead.
If someone has some extra cash burning in their pocket and wants to ride what will be mainstream in 5 years time, grab yourself some custom midfoot shoes and get fitted by steve hogg in sydney.
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30/08/2010 12:18:49 PM
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Durianrider Vegan
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Hey Gotz, on your shoe site, what did you mean when you wrote 'No foot enlargement,' regarding some RAAM riders in 2009. http://biomac.limi.at/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6:mounting-the-cleats&catid=1:text&lang=en&d2bf4e760b0de440231e73049afcb692=febb7376d411bb16628c578f48e3963b
Where they riding midfoot? Im finding that Im not getting the 'hot foot' feeling I used to get. It never was a real problem but with midfoot cleat position it sure is WAY more comfy on long riders and in warmer weather for sure.
edited by harley j on 30/08/2010
edited by harley j on 30/08/2010
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30/08/2010 7:52:27 PM
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götz heine
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Due to their uncommon making biomac shoe clients do not suffer from hot or swollen feet.
In fact, even AUDAX and RAAM winners like Wyss, Narr, Samtleben, Clavadetscher and runner-up
Gulewicz had to tighten their laces once again after say 10ks because excess lymphatic fluids from standing
and walking gets pumped back into the blood stream rather than increasing the size of their feet.
Main reason for this 'phenomenon' is the absence of chemical diluents and vapours usually present inside
'cheap' production shoes.
2nd, biomac shoes show hardly any heel lift in order to distribute leg power throughout the entire
sole rather than guide pressure to one single spot like the metatarsals.
3rd, ventilation is effectuated that way the two big metallic nets correspond with the big flap on top
of the shoe so it acts as a Chinese blower even when climbing, increasing ventilation in the toe box.
4th, the heel box has a thin, subtle layer of silk lining to prevent the skin from blisters. This in turn
frees the foot from damp paddings which when entering stock shoes may feel snug and comfy, in the long
run prevent ventilation though.
Its a philosophy, and most customers agree, that the foot must be kept as natural as possible in order to
function naturally. Therefore, only the tarsometatarsal joint gets tied to the rock-hard sole, semi-flexible
side-walls however limit unwanted foot rotation.
edited by götz heine on 31/08/2010
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